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chris_gerrib ([personal profile] chris_gerrib) wrote2010-05-06 08:41 am
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Thoughts on the Times Square Unbomber

You know, I’ve been hearing on various conservative blogs (such as Simberg's Flying Circus) for months now that health care reform was the greatest threat to freedom ever, and how its passage was the act of a power-hungry tyrant.

Then, this dropout from the Wily E. Coyote School of Bombmaking comes along, and parks his "bomb" in Times Square. His firecrackers fizzle, and 52 hours later he’s sitting in FBI custody allegedly singing like he’s a contestant on American Idol.

In response to that, we want to give the Executive unilateral authority to revoke the citizenship of any American based on an accusation of whom they are associating with. How is that not an act of tyranny? How is that not a threat to freedom? What’s next - do we pull the Hutaree’s citizenship?

[identity profile] daveon.livejournal.com 2010-05-06 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I experienced a head-desk moment listening to that nonsense. I saw a fascinating interview with an ex-MI5 or 6 interrogation expert a few years ago about why they stopped bothering. His view was that most people will tell you practically everything they know and that you need to know without even realising they've done it if you do it right.

His problem with any other methods were they led to you being told what you wanted to hear.

There's a shock.

I actually did notice some cracks in the Simbergian front the other day with some of the usual suspects admitting that this really did seem to be an example of how police and secret services can get stuff done.

Again. Go figure.

Let's hope that the bombers continue to be this monsterously inept.

[identity profile] jetfx.livejournal.com 2010-05-07 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
It's also unconstitutional. The Supreme Court ruled in 1967 that Americans could only lose their citizenship if they voluntarily renounced it, or if they obtained it under false circumstances, like Nazi war criminals. The federal government does not have the authority to revoke citizenship at will.

[identity profile] chris-gerrib.livejournal.com 2010-05-07 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
It's so unconstitutional as to not even be funny. But since when does reality stop the conservative movement?