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Look, I'm a Certified* Science Fiction Geek, so I do like me some lasers. But comes news today that the DOD was out playing with their laser again and this time they shot down a Border Patrol drone!

What The Actual Fuck? One would think that the previous incident, the Attack of the Party Balloons, would lead to people thinking maybe we look twice and shoot once. Apparently thinking is in short supply at the moment.

So in looking through my blog, I see I've spoken in the past of the need to visually identify targets. Much like "on the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog," on radar, all flying objects look the same.



*Or certifiable, you pick.
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Apologies for the long radio silence at Casa Gerrib Norte. I was heavily involved in running Capricon and then other Life happened. But relax - your silent suffering is at an end.

Comes news today that the FAA shut down the airspace over El Paso, Texas for 10 days on very short notice. Then, after a widespread round of WTF, they re-opened it. Well, the problem resulted from a spat between the FAA and DOD over using high-powered lasers to shoot down drug cartel drones. Apparently the DOD has been using these at Fort Bliss over FAA objections. Also at least one use of the laser was to shoot down errant party balloons. I have thoughts.

1) Dealing with low-and-slow drones over any urban area is tough. There's a lot of stuff flying around.

2) Especially in peacetime, you really should know what you're shooting at before firing.

3) The drone problem will require multiple solutions, to include sending up your own drones to eyeball a target before hitting it with your Mega Death Ray.

4) The (lack of) planning this incident exhibited is reason #3741 why you need competent people in government. Alas, in the current Administration, competency is actively discouraged.
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Thought #1 for Tuesday

I see John Scalzi signed a deal for Zachary Quinto of Star Trek reboot fame to narrate a free audio novella. Contra one Wile E. Coyote, SuperGenius (tm) and the entire crowd at Mad Geniuses Club, these sort of deals don't happen to non-bankable authors. In short, everybody involved got One (1) Metric Shitload of Money (MSM). The people paying said money expect to receive two or three such MSMs.

Thought #2 For Tuesday

We're one step closer to a megawatt Death Ray of Death.

Plus Writing Neepery

I was continuing to struggle with my mystery novel Eastville. In order to move forward, I wrote the climatic scene last night. Now I have a target to write to.
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I'm going to Rotary, so have some links in lieu of content.

A) The other government revolving door - sheriffs departments and state troopers providing new homes for bad cops. Note: although this article is safe, the full site is full of not-safe-for-work "good shit."

B) Regarding the mess in Ferguson, this guy sums up my views perfectly.

C) An interesting article on the American way of dying. Having seen this with a number of aging relatives, the article makes good points.

D) The US Navy has deployed a 30 KW laser as a weapon.

E) An interesting article on the guy who refloated the Costa Concordia.

F) Space geeks really need to drop whatever they are doing and watch this movie.
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As many geeks have already seen, the US Navy, long working on ship-mounted lasers, has one that's demonstrated the ability to shoot down small targets. There's a cool video of one at the link. More importantly, the self-contained albeit a bit too large laser will be heading to the Persian Gulf next year for operational testing.

Lasers - they're not just for breakfast any more.
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In thinking about missiles, there are two very different niches that could be filled by them. In fact, the roles are different enough that the very well-appointed warship may have two different anti-ship missile systems.

The first missile roll is what I would call the “hunter-scout.” This would be a missile that would be optimized for long-range attacks. It would have an engine capable of being throttled, be as stealthy as possible, and be smart with good sensors. Part of its “scout” roll would be the VID function.

In modern warfare, it’s very difficult to look at a radar screen and tell the difference between a B-52 and a Boeing 747, especially if the B-52 is trying to look like a 747. They are, after all, large multi-engine subsonic vehicles made by the same company. In modern warfare, manned fighters are sent out to “VID” or “visually identify” (AKA “go look at the damn thing!”) any suspicious targets. A sufficiently smart missile could do that job much safer than a manned vehicle.

The second missile roll is what I would call the “hard-kill” role. This missile is designed strictly for attacking enemy warships. Since presumably the enemy will be trying to use their lasers to melt the inbound missile, hard-kill missiles would be designed to be as laser-resistant as possible. They’d do things like spin, have heat-resistant hulls, and be as fast as possible for shorter-range work.

Tactically, the hunter-scout missile would be used much like a sniper – one missile, one kill. It would try to sneak in and destroy. The hard-kill missile would have to be cheaper and possibly lighter, because it would be launched in a swarm, to attempt to overwhelm the anti-missile lasers. It would be a tactically more of a “spray and pray” weapon system.

I think my future space navy may end up with two missiles. A short, squat fast missile called “Harpoon” to fill the hard-kill role and a larger, stealthy “Arrow” missile for the scout-hunter role.
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In my view, for space warfare lasers and missiles go together like peanut butter and chocolate. If you don’t like that analogy, consider lasers as analogous to guns or cannon, and missiles as analogous to missiles.

There is a reason most modern fighter jets and naval warships have guns and missiles. The gun is more reliable, reasonably lethal and its cheap and light ammunition means you can get a lot more shots off than with a missile. But missiles are more lethal, and operate at longer ranges, making the expense and weight of carrying them around worth the hassle.

A laser, then, would fill the “gun” role – its ammunition, energy, is really cheap. Unlike a gun, there’s no recoil pushing your ship around, and its “projectiles” (photons) although also not guided are very much point-and-shoot. You don’t lead a target with a laser. The more expensive missiles would be reserved for more specialized rolls.

When thinking about missiles in space, one thing to consider is that they really would be much more analogous to naval torpedoes than to modern missiles. Consider that the Exocet missile mentioned in Friday’s post travels at 687 knots – or 22.9 times faster than the guided-missile frigate it nearly sank. This is because the missile moves in a different medium than the ship does.

Since spaceships and space-missiles move in the same medium, space, using (presumably) the same basic engine tech, these massive speed advantages are unlikely. One will see the missile having some speed advantage, if for other reason than not needing to reserve fuel for a return, but I would be surprised to see absolute speed advantages of more than 3 to 1. This is comparable to the speed advantage held by the also highly-lethal torpedo. This slow speed means the only way to shoot at some targets that are moving too fast (relative to the shooter) would be by laser.

Tomorrow: Two missiles to rule us all!
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Students of naval history may remember the USS Stark, which in May 1987 was hit by two Exocet anti-ship missiles. 37 sailors died, 21 were injured, and the ship damn near sank. I have it on reliable sources that the warheads on those Exocets did not detonate. How does my source know this? He found one of the warheads sitting on the deck after his firefighting crew had spent several hours literally kicking it out of the way!

The Exocet missile masses 670 kilograms and travels at 1100 KPH. For us Americans, that’s 1500 pounds at 687 miles per hour, or just under the speed of sound. Two of these missiles without warhead detonation damn near sank a 4,000 ton warship. The two missiles massed the equivalent of a WWII Japanese Zero fighter, one of the planes used in kamikaze attacks late in the war. In short, missiles pack one hell of a punch.

By contrast, lasers don’t pack the same punch. My admittedly small-ish laser used in the previous posts on this topic cuts a 12 inch hole in aluminum or steel. Although no mechanical device reacts well to having random holes cut into it, one could easily imagine scenarios in which a 747 took several such hits and kept flying. Yes, the cabin would depressurize and the folks sitting in the rows hit by the laser will have a very bad day indeed, but a laser might not produce a mission-kill, let alone a hard kill.

When you start thinking about merely traveling to other planets, let alone fighting battles around them, a 747 is rather small by any reasonable standard. The cabin of a 747 has around 1200 cubic meters of space, while the frigate has 11,000 cubic meters just below the waterline. So, while a naval frigate might be a big ship by space standards, a 747 would have to be a small one.

This leads me to conclude that one should expect long-range space ships to be expected to sustain multiple laser hits. However, because weight is critical, I doubt that they would be able to sustain even one hit from a medium or large missile. If you can get a missile past the lasers, you can kill a warship with a single shot.

Coming Monday: Lasers and Missiles go together like peanut butter and chocolate.
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In yesterday's post, I outlined how powerful a laser would be as a space weapon. Even here on Earth today, the weaponization of lasers is actually happening as we speak. However, lasers are not without their problems.

The first problem with lasers is aiming them. Simply put, radar beams are significantly wider than laser beams. I've used 1,000 kilometers as my maximum effective range of a laser. At that range, the laser beam width is measured in centimeters, while the radar beam width is measured in kilometers. To effectively aim a laser, one needs to see the target.

The second problem with lasers is that there are ways to make your vehicle more laser-resistant. For one thing, you could spin the outer hull, thus radically increasing the area to be heated. You could also make your outer hull out of some heat-resistant material like ceramics. Neither of these solutions are perfect or easy. Your spinning hull would have to spin at all target angles, for example, and it would still get hot. At closer ranges, burn-through would still occur.

But the real problem is actually range, or rather lack of range. Engagements at thousands of kilometers sounds like a lot (and it is) but at least theoretically ships could be detected at tens or even hundreds of thousands of kilometers. I don't know about you, but when I'm fighting a war, I want to kill my enemy as far away from me as possible. So for certain values of "range," lasers are a short-range weapon.

Tomorrow's topic: Damage control, or the USS Stark and lasers.
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A while back I linked to an interesting article about aircraft carriers in space. The tl:dr version of the article is "aircraft carriers in space don't make any sense." This article was linked to over at Simberg's Flying Circus, and in comments, there were several discussions about whether or not beam weapons (AKA "lasers") were better than missiles for space warfare.

I would argue that the well-appointed warship of the foreseeable future would have both weapon systems. But first, it's important to understand the military effectiveness of a laser in space, which I'll do today. A note - all equations and facts are from either the damage from laser online calculator or the great time-sink Atomic Rockets of the Space Patrol.

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